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Mast or Primo causing sleep issues?

#1
I started my cruise of 160mg Test E PW about 4 weeks ago and decided to throw low dose Mast P and Primo E in with it, and it's my first time with both compounds. Mast P is at 120mg PW pinning 40mg M/W/F. Primo E is 200mg PW pinning with the Test E Su/Wed. I have been having the exact same sleep sides as I do when on Tren. Hard to fall asleep, wake up often and hard to fall back asleep. End up getting up for work everyday feeling unrested because of all tossing and turning throughout the night. Do you guys think this is because of the Mast or Primo? Or completely unrelated?
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#2
I've actually never run Primo, but I myself get 0 sleep issues with Mast. The only compounds that I've found that give me sleep disturbances have been Tren, high doses of Test (1g+) and Deca sometimes. Probably from sleep apnea tho
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#3
I’ve used both mast up to 1g a week and primo up to 1.4g and never had sleep problems from it. Tren seems to be the only thing that messes with mine.
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#4
(09-13-2019, 03:30 AM)Trenstorm Wrote: I’ve used both mast up to 1g a week and primo up to 1.4g and never had sleep problems from it. Tren seems to be the only thing that messes with mine.


This is the same for me, I’ve used mast and primo up to those same doses, sometimes at the same time, and never had it cause sleep issues. Then again I am on HGH so maybe this helps. Are you running any Hgh?
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#5
(09-13-2019, 03:51 AM)Primobro Wrote: This is the same for me, I’ve used mast and primo up to those same doses, sometimes at the same time, and never had it cause sleep issues. Then again I am on HGH so maybe this helps. Are you running any Hgh?

Yeah I was running 5iu with the higher doses.
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#6
I'd argue compounds don't cause insomnia directly (magically?) but due to modulation of neurotransmitters or bloodmarkers or some other causality. primo has no noticeable side effects for me at all (as it doesn't affect markers much), on mast I'd check for e2 being low as a possible cause of sides
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#7
I ran 320-420mg of Mast E for a month. I felt like I was WIRED. Had trouble getting good sleep. Did not like the feeling. Maybe different people react differently. You might be like me...
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#8
You probably just need to bust a nut before bed. Mast brings out the hornyness pretty badly in my experience.
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#9
I run Mast all year round. It keeps me a little more wired, I tend to go to bed later then I should.

When I'm not running mast and just test, I go into some really deep sleep. However with Mast I do notice that I tend to wake up a few times in the night. I'm gonna bet on mast I lose an hour or two sleep every night. However I have plenty of energy and feel great.

It is nice to get that really deep coma like sleep, so it's a trade off, but Mast for me even if it's just a small dose makes such a huge difference in how I feel that I won't stop it unless I can no longer get my hands on it.

And I always inject first thing in the morning after I wake up. I don't inject mid day or close to night.
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