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#1
Hey guys,

I originally had a thread about Deca as bulker back in december. A friend of mine and I had the idea to run a long bulk. 16-20 weeks, so using Deca and maybe some EQ made sense. Some life plans have gotten in the way of that original plan, and we now have a 10 week cycle/blast planned.

The basics are:

1-10 Test E 500 mg/wk (2 pins, E 3.5D)
1-10 Tren E 250 mg/wk (2 pins, E 3.5D)

For me:
1-4 Dbol 25 or 50 mg/day

Buddy:
1-6 Abombs 50 mg/day

8-12 (maybe) Var 60 mg/day

Buddy will go on to PCT and I will cruise. Caber, Aromasin, Nolva, Clomid, Cialis (bp control), Proviron on hand to help combat sides.

1) First time using Tren, we were shooting for a dose that was high enough to produce results with low to moderate risk for sides. Is the dose high enough to produce results?

2) First time for Dbol and Test for me. I aromatize pretty easily, can anyone ballpark a dose of aromasin to start with and adjust as conditions warrant?

Any and all criticisms, ideas, things to consider are welcome and encouraged. I want to get as much out of each blast as I can.

Thanks for any feedback,

Jaacyn
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#2
This is kinda all over the place, what do your previous cycles look like?
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#3
(02-13-2020, 09:15 PM)demondark Wrote: This is kinda all over the place, what do your previous cycles look like?

Sorry if I was confusing. I have done:

Oral only (way way back, im older)
Sarms cycle - ouch
Test Cyp - 400 mg/wk - 10 weeks

Last Cycle was:

1-12 Test E 600 mg/wk (2 pins)
1-4 Anadrol 50 mg/day
10-14 Var 50 mg/day

Went to cruise (200 mg test U/wk) after Test E ended, first time cruising.
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#4
Here's the thing about cycle threads. You post a proposal, you start getting input, the ones giving input start debating with each other and your left standing there wondering wtf? That or you've gotten so much conflicting information that your head is spinning. Run some searches similar to what your shooting for and draw your own conclusion. You'll be more satisfied and in the end will probably end up doing it anyway. I've never once regretted going with what I felt was right and if you f*** it up a bit then you'll learn from your OWN mistakes and not regretting taking someone else's advice. No better way for learning IMO. Just don't push your boundaries and get yourself hurt. Anyway to your question... That tren e isn't gonna stop giving you what you don't want if you don't like it. I'd get it out of there and give tren ace a go first.
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#5
Looks like a few new compounds,
-tren is not very forgiving so would recommend using tren ace for the first go. Better yet, maybe npp or deca instead as your first 19nor.
-if you're going to have proviron on hand and it's from a reliable source, might as well take it. Can only make a cycle better in my opinion, and is one of the few non toxic orals.
For your questions,
1) definitely enough to produce results, also depends on your current physique and diet/workout regimen.
2) with heavy aromatizing, I find it easier to run the max test dose you can without needed an ai, and then add dry/dryer compounds. Perhaps primo and npp?

How much ai did you use on the last cycle?
How was your appetite on the adrol?
Most of my advice will be on the more health conscious side, so while tren is very effective, it is also very harsh.
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#6
(02-13-2020, 05:22 PM)jaacyn71 Wrote: Hey guys,

I originally had a thread about Deca as bulker back in december. A friend of mine and I had the idea to run a long bulk. 16-20 weeks, so using Deca and maybe some EQ made sense. Some life plans have gotten in the way of that original plan, and we now have a 10 week cycle/blast planned.

*If you're unable to stick to a planned cycle due to life issues, gear probably isn't for you at this point in your life*

The basics are:

1-10 Test E 500 mg/wk (2 pins, E 3.5D)
1-10 Tren E 250 mg/wk (2 pins, E 3.5D)

For me:
1-4 Dbol 25 or 50 mg/day

Buddy:
1-6 Abombs 50 mg/day

8-12 (maybe) Var 60 mg/day

*Complicating it all too much. Wanted Deca but now you're both taking different orals and running Tren? This is going to recomp you at best but most likely will cut you down. Tren is very, very good at ripping through whatever food you give your body. Skip Var at the end, skip Anadrol, both of you just run Dbol and pop 50mg about an hour before your workout and on rest days take it around whatever time would coincide with your workout. Highly recommend Tren ACE instead so if you don't like the sides you can hop off it much quicker than ENTH but you will be pinning 3-4x weekly (EoD minimum). If you switch, I'd say 175mg Ace weekly is equivalent to 250mg Enth weekly*

Buddy will go on to PCT and I will cruise. Caber, Aromasin, Nolva, Clomid, Cialis (bp control), Proviron on hand to help combat sides.

*Buddy will lose all gains. Promise. If he's not ready for the TRT life then don't even hop onto gear period because everyone is absolutely destined for TRT once you hop on this train. Proviron is not for fighting AAS side effects and won't do anything for your cycle. Cialis on Tren can be dangerous as fuck and you probably don't even need it; If your dick won't get up, just go look at some porn instead of using a pill. Caber is way too powerful for your chosen dose; Prami is much better for low dose Tren runs for combating prolactin issues. Asin probably completely unnecessary because those low doses of Test and Dbol shouldn't give you any gyno issues at all unless you're ridiculously unlucky*

1) First time using Tren, we were shooting for a dose that was high enough to produce results with low to moderate risk for sides. Is the dose high enough to produce results?

*Pros back in the day used to run like 70mg of Tren weekly so yes it's enough for results but don't expect to turn into a freak on this one cycle*

2) First time for Dbol and Test for me. I aromatize pretty easily, can anyone ballpark a dose of aromasin to start with and adjust as conditions warrant?

*If you can't handle it, don't even use it. Go experiment but just drop the Dbol and cut down the test if your body doesn't like it. Again Asin shouldn't really be necessary at those low doses and if it is you're probably better off (health-wise) just avoiding those drugs and not bothering with the Asin. Tons of other options for gains and 99% of progress is from diet and training.*

Any and all criticisms, ideas, things to consider are welcome and encouraged. I want to get as much out of each blast as I can.

Thanks for any feedback,

Jaacyn



I put my replies between asterisks in the quoted post.
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#7
@demondark I don't think many of us listened too much when others were informing us about tren. I know I didn't. But at a reasonable amount and something he can get control of pretty quickly he'll be just fine. Actually he'll be just fine anyway but it's just one of those things you feel you just have to put out there. But already having the tren e, 100% chance he's gonna run it. I would.
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#8
Short cycle , you should use short esters. Tren ace and Test Prop or Ace .
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#9
Thanks for the replies. I appreciate all of them.

@demondark thanks for the info., questions and replies, I appreciate the time. Anadrol killed my apetite right around the end of week 3, before that it was fantastic, but I don't think I can handle it so I was hoping dbol would be a little easier for me to handle.

I used a 12.5 mg tab(sparta) after every pin. A few times I skipped for a while to see what would happen, and I got itchy/sensitive nips and seemed to be hot all the time (not sure thats a high e2 symptom but I couldn't figure out what else it might be from). Nothing terribly bad, no puffiness or lumps in nipple area.

I am just unsure of how to dose for dbol because the internet has both sides, dont use any on that dose, or use ED or EOD because of the methyl estrogen conversion. My initial thought is to do 12.5 after every pin again, and just up frequency or dose if the dbol gives me high e2 signs.

Jaacyn
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