SPARTA GH CHALLENGE- Black top vs. Mauve

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  • Fine Gentledudes,

    This will be a running log with at least weekly updates of my experience with Sparta’s growth hormone, both the Black tops and the Mauve tops.

    These are both generic brand GH, however the Mauve tops have supposedly been tested at 12IUs/vial, meaning 120IUs per kit(20% more is no joke). The Black tops on the other hand have excellent reported effectiveness, but as far as I am aware, no officially testing results. That, said I have not seen the test results on anyone’s Mauve top GH, but if someone has them, would be interesting to see.

    Side note, I emailed Sparta evening of 3/30, replied early morning 3/31, and confirmed order shortly after. I will also update on the T/A and packaging in case people are interested. My first/prior experience with them was hassle free and quick if I remember correctly.

    Ok, so as far as comparing the black tops vs Mauve (Mauve sounds so fancy and condescending, just say pink…or purple). My question is: Should i go through the entire batch of one GH and then the next in sequence comparing subjective results of one vs the other? Alternatively, and what I am favoring, is alternating single vials and comparing. I was going to start initial dosing at 1.5-2IUs BID(2xday=3-4IUs/day). Once in the am and then later in the afternoon, ideally PWO. I am going to start with a 1/1 schedule in order to preserve GH and run for longer, but I will be sure to update if I decide to switch to 5/2.

    I am coming off a moderate recomp cycle of Test/NPP 400/400 with 500 Primo for the last 8 weeks for a total of 15 weeks. 50-75 Anavar was thrown in at the beginning. (All gear was Sparta or Locked n Load, both awesome) Overall, the results were great. Total weight went from 195 to 205ish. Honestly my weight fluctuates quite a bit with my water/food/shit equilibrium. During this blast I healed a few old small injuries, but acquired a few new ones. I will be commenting and comparing effects(strength/sleep/physique/hunger/mood/etc) as well as any healing effects. I should also mention, this is my first GH run, so any wisdom is appreciated.

    For the next 8 weeks I will be cruising on ~150-250 Test C, with the growth added as soon as Sparta can get into my sweaty hands. Sorry for the crazy long post, the rest will be shorter. Hopefully with pics, but I have a lot of identifying tattoos, so we will see…

  • We look forward to seeing your review! There was some bloods posted on the mauves somewhere here. We sent off the blues to be tested and then will get the blacks purity tested as well.

    This log is exciting and I’ll be tuning in weekly if not daily!

    -Achilles

  • As I wait for my precious goodies to arrive… Sparta just updated me with tracking saying its arrived tomorrow. (3 day t/a, yes please and thank you)

    How about we dissect my next blast, which will be after aprox 8 weeks of cruise dose TRT and 6-7 weeks GH, which should have all the small injuries healed up nicely in order to lift a little heavier.

    As previously mentioned, I just came off Test/NPP/Primo and want to pin less often, so… (goals are recomp essentially or the “lean bulk”). Most interested in the “synergy” between AAS and GH i’ve read about.

    wk1-(16-20)
    Test C 600
    Deca 600
    EQ 600

    wk 2-6
    25-50mg Dbol (get big)

    wk 12-20
    50-75mg Var (get lean)

    thoughts?

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47328’ dateline=‘1554257402’]
    As I wait for my precious goodies to arrive… Sparta just updated me with tracking saying its arrived tomorrow. (3 day t/a, yes please and thank you)

    How about we dissect my next blast, which will be after aprox 8 weeks of cruise dose TRT and 6-7 weeks GH, which should have all the small injuries healed up nicely in order to lift a little heavier.

    As previously mentioned, I just came off Test/NPP/Primo and want to pin less often, so… (goals are recomp essentially or the “lean bulk”). Most interested in the “synergy” between AAS and GH i’ve read about.

    wk1-(16-20)
    Test C 600
    Deca 600
    EQ 600

    wk 2-6
    25-50mg Dbol (get big)

    wk 12-20
    50-75mg Var (get lean)

    thoughts?
    [/quote]

    I suggest doing tren even if it’s only 400mg of E instead of Deca. Tren and GH are an amazing combo. I love tren and dbol personally too.

    -Achilles

  • Has anyone used pharma grade then used Spartas HGH and would you be able to compare the two ? Thanks

  • Oh, how dare you…ha

    I have actually been wanting to ride the tren train, but have never used before.

    I was actually wondering if adding Tren Ace for the last month (~50/day) would be useful in:

    1. Slight tightening effect at the end of cycle
    2. see how i respond to tren before going on longer ester

    Then if all goes well, the following cycle will be Tren E… Choo Choo

    Also I have Caber, just in case Deca and Tren are too much Nor

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47362’ dateline=‘1554302409’]
    Oh, how dare you…ha

    I have actually been wanting to ride the tren train, but have never used before.

    I was actually wondering if adding Tren Ace for the last month (~50/day) would be useful in:

    1. Slight tightening effect at the end of cycle
    2. see how i respond to tren before going on longer ester

    Then if all goes well, the following cycle will be Tren E… Choo Choo

    Also I have Caber, just in case Deca and Tren are too much Nor
    [/quote]

    Run tren ace for sure instead of Tren E if you’ve never used it. I tell everyone to start at 20/30mg a day and taper up if you need to. Tren is powerful and you don’t really need to jump in at half a gram right away. I’m running 30mg a day this summer and it will be plenty, especially because spartas tren is good as fuck

  • [quote=“yelruP” pid=‘47363’ dateline=‘1554303436’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47362’ dateline=‘1554302409’]
    Oh, how dare you…ha

    I have actually been wanting to ride the tren train, but have never used before.

    I was actually wondering if adding Tren Ace for the last month (~50/day) would be useful in:

    1. Slight tightening effect at the end of cycle
    2. see how i respond to tren before going on longer ester

    Then if all goes well, the following cycle will be Tren E… Choo Choo

    Also I have Caber, just in case Deca and Tren are too much Nor
    [/quote]

    Run tren ace for sure instead of Tren E if you’ve never used it. I tell everyone to start at 20/30mg a day and taper up if you need to. Tren is powerful and you don’t really need to jump in at half a gram right away. I’m running 30mg a day this summer and it will be plenty, especially because spartas tren is good as fuck
    [/quote]

    Awwwe thanks bb 🙂

    I love tren. I suggest cycling it in and out. Do 4 weeks then out and back in for 8 weeks or another 4 weeks. I prefer minimum 50mg ED or 100mg EOD. I’m a bit more extreme when it comes to tren. When I run our tren come May, I’ll be doing 100-150mg ED plus 600-800mg EQ and 1g Test.

    As far as Pharma Grade GH goes, I have serostim and actually run it with our generics or after. I have to go a little higher on the blacks to get the same effect. Mauves I dose as 10ius even though it’s 12 in each vial so it’s pretty close. Blues I like a lot but we don’t offer them for the public right now. Still awaiting testing.

    Blues I rate on par with mauves or higher.

    Blacks are a great value and allow you to run more for less.

    Mauves are great.

    Pharma is holy grail but per IU price point, I’d rather run 3x the generics. You can run 10-15ius a day of generics for what you could with 5-6ius of pharma. I think at that point it’s worth running generics.

    I think if you have the money, it’s the best to run 10 generic and 4ius of pharma. I’ve had my sickest results from GH this way.

    -Achilles

  • I know some pro bodybuilders in the UK that use the meditrope so I’d say if it’s high quality generic, it’s good to go. If it’s good enough for James Hollingshead, it’s good enough for me.

  • Has anyone used pharma grade then used Spartas HGH and would you be able to compare the two ? Thanks

  • Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    BUT, like NOOB, I forgot to pickup sterile water, also kinda wasn’t sure if it was gonna come with it. First time fuck ups…

    To make it worse, I have called around and no pharmacy sells sterile water or will not provide it without a prescription, ahhg!! So ive already ordered 6 x 10mL vials online which prob wont arrive till next week and im itching to put this shit in me.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?
    [hr]
    [quote=“yelruP” pid=‘47363’ dateline=‘1554303436’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47362’ dateline=‘1554302409’]
    Oh, how dare you…ha

    I have actually been wanting to ride the tren train, but have never used before.

    I was actually wondering if adding Tren Ace for the last month (~50/day) would be useful in:

    1. Slight tightening effect at the end of cycle
    2. see how i respond to tren before going on longer ester

    Then if all goes well, the following cycle will be Tren E… Choo Choo

    Also I have Caber, just in case Deca and Tren are too much Nor
    [/quote]

    Run tren ace for sure instead of Tren E if you’ve never used it. I tell everyone to start at 20/30mg a day and taper up if you need to. Tren is powerful and you don’t really need to jump in at half a gram right away. I’m running 30mg a day this summer and it will be plenty, especially because spartas tren is good as fuck
    [/quote]

    Thanks, this is good to hear. I have heard of pinning Tren A subq so you dont have to spear a muscle belly every day, what do you think? I think release might be a little different but i know i would tolerate those pins better, guess im just wondering if there are anuy other downsides.

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    BUT, like NOOB, I forgot to pickup sterile water, also kinda wasn’t sure if it was gonna come with it. First time fuck ups…

    To make it worse, I have called around and no pharmacy sells sterile water or will not provide it without a prescription, ahhg!! So ive already ordered 6 x 10mL vials online which prob wont arrive till next week and im itching to put this shit in me.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?
    [hr]
    [quote=“yelruP” pid=‘47363’ dateline=‘1554303436’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47362’ dateline=‘1554302409’]
    Oh, how dare you…ha

    I have actually been wanting to ride the tren train, but have never used before.

    I was actually wondering if adding Tren Ace for the last month (~50/day) would be useful in:

    1. Slight tightening effect at the end of cycle
    2. see how i respond to tren before going on longer ester

    Then if all goes well, the following cycle will be Tren E… Choo Choo

    Also I have Caber, just in case Deca and Tren are too much Nor
    [/quote]

    Run tren ace for sure instead of Tren E if you’ve never used it. I tell everyone to start at 20/30mg a day and taper up if you need to. Tren is powerful and you don’t really need to jump in at half a gram right away. I’m running 30mg a day this summer and it will be plenty, especially because spartas tren is good as fuck
    [/quote]

    Thanks, this is good to hear. I have heard of pinning Tren A subq so you dont have to spear a muscle belly every day, what do you think? I think release might be a little different but i know i would tolerate those pins better
    [/quote]

    Never done it personally but I’m sure someone can chime in here. Never done subq for anything

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    BUT, like NOOB, I forgot to pickup sterile water, also kinda wasn’t sure if it was gonna come with it. First time fuck ups…

    To make it worse, I have called around and no pharmacy sells sterile water or will not provide it without a prescription, ahhg!! So ive already ordered 6 x 10mL vials online which prob wont arrive till next week and im itching to put this shit in me.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?

    [/quote]

    Hey bud correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you were supposed to reconstitute GH with Bac water and not sterile water because the bac water allows the GH to last longer in the fridge.

  • [quote=“fatboyprime1” pid=‘47870’ dateline=‘1554638649’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?

    [/quote]

    Hey bud correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you were supposed to reconstitute GH with Bac water and not sterile water because the bac water allows the GH to last longer in the fridge.
    [/quote]

    So from what I have been reading, companies rec just sterile water for GH recon as it allows for the most amount of viable peptide, with the least amount destroyed by the solution. Bac water allow your solution to last a bit longer, with slightly more denatured/sacrificed protein(hgh), but I will be going though vials like every 5 days, so shelf life after recon is not my main concern.

    If anyone has more/better info regarding this, love you hear your thoughts.

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47871’ dateline=‘1554640263’]
    [quote=“fatboyprime1” pid=‘47870’ dateline=‘1554638649’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?

    [/quote]

    Hey bud correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you were supposed to reconstitute GH with Bac water and not sterile water because the bac water allows the GH to last longer in the fridge.
    [/quote]

    So from what I have been reading, companies rec just sterile water for GH recon as it allows for the most amount of viable peptide, with the least amount destroyed by the solution. Bac water allow your solution to last a bit longer, with slightly more denatured/sacrificed protein(hgh), but I will be going though vials like every 5 days, so shelf life after recon is not my main concern.

    If anyone has more/better info regarding this, love you hear your thoughts.
    [/quote]

    AHHH the shit you learn everyday! I never knew that but it makes sense, few ius everyday and bam vial done.

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47871’ dateline=‘1554640263’]
    [quote=“fatboyprime1” pid=‘47870’ dateline=‘1554638649’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?

    [/quote]

    Hey bud correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you were supposed to reconstitute GH with Bac water and not sterile water because the bac water allows the GH to last longer in the fridge.
    [/quote]

    So from what I have been reading, companies rec just sterile water for GH recon as it allows for the most amount of viable peptide, with the least amount destroyed by the solution. Bac water allow your solution to last a bit longer, with slightly more denatured/sacrificed protein(hgh), but I will be going though vials like every 5 days, so shelf life after recon is not my main concern.

    If anyone has more/better info regarding this, love you hear your thoughts.
    [/quote]

    I’m sure @“SpartaPharmaUSA” or @dbolic could help you here. Or even @“Pharmahgh” since he’s the god of growth hormone

  • [quote=“yelruP” pid=‘48036’ dateline=‘1554737386’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47871’ dateline=‘1554640263’]
    [quote=“fatboyprime1” pid=‘47870’ dateline=‘1554638649’]
    [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?

    [/quote]

    Hey bud correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you were supposed to reconstitute GH with Bac water and not sterile water because the bac water allows the GH to last longer in the fridge.
    [/quote]

    So from what I have been reading, companies rec just sterile water for GH recon as it allows for the most amount of viable peptide, with the least amount destroyed by the solution. Bac water allow your solution to last a bit longer, with slightly more denatured/sacrificed protein(hgh), but I will be going though vials like every 5 days, so shelf life after recon is not my main concern.

    If anyone has more/better info regarding this, love you hear your thoughts.
    [/quote]

    I’m sure @“SpartaPharmaUSA” or @dbolic could help you here. Or even @“Pharmahgh” since he’s the god of growth hormone
    [/quote]

    Sterile water will work if you plan on using it in a day or two. Wouldn’t use it any longer after 2 days. HIV/AIDS patients use serostim and will use an entire vial of 18ius with sterile water in 1 day.

    If you’re gonna run a vial a day, go for the sterile water. I have a buddy who uses B12 he gets from his TRT doc as his mixing solution.

    -Achilles

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘47543’ dateline=‘1554398610’]
    Help guys, so Sparta’s GH arrived yesterday right on time, 3 day t/a, like a BOSS. BLACK and MAUVE tops in a cute little box.

    BUT, like NOOB, I forgot to pickup sterile water, also kinda wasn’t sure if it was gonna come with it. First time fuck ups…

    To make it worse, I have called around and no pharmacy sells sterile water or will not provide it without a prescription, ahhg!! So ive already ordered 6 x 10mL vials online which prob wont arrive till next week and im itching to put this shit in me.

    Does anyone know where i can just get a small amount of sterile water locally? Like would CVS/Walgreens sterile water (in the small jugs) work? They’re like 250 or 500mLs, but not in glass or plastic vials like most water for reconstitution, but is it the same just more volume?
    Obviously not ideal for opening and contamination, but if was to just use it to reconstitute one vial until the others arrive?

    Or do I just wait till next week and suffer for my NOOB sins…?

    [/quote]

    Make friends with a Nurse/Medic. Easiest, quickest and cheapest way.

  • Hokay… been a bit since I updated this thread for a few reason… bac water issues, then busy studying for a big licensing exam as well, anyways…

    Here is my update after about 3 weeks of GH twice a day(am/pm), dosing EOD. I am alternating Black and Mauve tops. I am injection .3cc with each vial reconstituted with 1.5cc bac water. So, if truly 10IUs/vial = 2IU/injection(4IU/day)

    Also remember, this is my first time using GH

    1. I as actually surprised how fast I actually felt a difference, within the first week was sleeping a little better. (would sleep though the night rather than wake up multiple times as usual)

    2. Was getting some new wrist pain. Not sure if this was some carpel tunnel like symptoms or just my normal wrist pain that is flaring

    3. Def leaner in the abdominal region, seeing more abs. And remember, I am about 4 weeks into cruise after a mild blast and expected to gain some fat back, but things are holding pretty well. I will note that my diet is usually 85-90% clean during the week and like 60-75% on weekends right now.

    4. Hair and nails for sure growing thicker and faster. Skin is amazing. Overall, I have a slight glow to my complexion.

    5. Small injuries are healing better and faster. I had a midback muscle strain that would not go away and was going on a month of pain. After about 2 weeks on the GH, it was gone. Could be from the rest and time, however i do believe the peptide helped.

    6. Sleepy. I get noticeable sleepier on dosed days. Like mid day, after training, I want to take a nap every time. It doesnt feel bad and the days i do succumb to the nap, i feel amazing. Recovery is key.

    7. No welts or irritation at injection sites.

    Overall, i feel good and happy. I am not sure if this method is great for comparing as I am alternating so frequently that its hard to notice a difference.

    If there are any other questions regarding effects, shoot them my way. Ill be updating more regularly now.

  • [quote=“chazbones” pid=‘50836’ dateline=‘1556636285’]
    Hokay… been a bit since I updated this thread for a few reason… bac water issues, then busy studying for a big licensing exam as well, anyways…

    Here is my update after about 3 weeks of GH twice a day(am/pm), dosing EOD. I am alternating Black and Mauve tops. I am injection .3cc with each vial reconstituted with 1.5cc bac water. So, if truly 10IUs/vial = 2IU/injection(4IU/day)

    Also remember, this is my first time using GH

    1. I as actually surprised how fast I actually felt a difference, within the first week was sleeping a little better. (would sleep though the night rather than wake up multiple times as usual)

    2. Was getting some new wrist pain. Not sure if this was some carpel tunnel like symptoms or just my normal wrist pain that is flaring

    3. Def leaner in the abdominal region, seeing more abs. And remember, I am about 4 weeks into cruise after a mild blast and expected to gain some fat back, but things are holding pretty well. I will note that my diet is usually 85-90% clean during the week and like 60-75% on weekends right now.

    4. Hair and nails for sure growing thicker and faster. Skin is amazing. Overall, I have a slight glow to my complexion.

    5. Small injuries are healing better and faster. I had a midback muscle strain that would not go away and was going on a month of pain. After about 2 weeks on the GH, it was gone. Could be from the rest and time, however i do believe the peptide helped.

    6. Sleepy. I get noticeable sleepier on dosed days. Like mid day, after training, I want to take a nap every time. It doesnt feel bad and the days i do succumb to the nap, i feel amazing. Recovery is key.

    7. No welts or irritation at injection sites.

    Overall, i feel good and happy. I am not sure if this method is great for comparing as I am alternating so frequently that its hard to notice a difference.

    If there are any other questions regarding effects, shoot them my way. Ill be updating more regularly now.
    [/quote]

    Glad to hear man!! Just for this hit us up when you want more blacks and we will knock $10 off!

    -Achilles

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