Best non-aromatizing injectable for strength+dry gains? No 19 Nors

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  • I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.

  • [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52191’ dateline=‘1557372469’]
    I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.
    [/quote]

    Masteron hands down, start with even just 350mg/week with your test and I promise you will look and feel great if your training and diet is on point. The mast will make you a stud in the bedroom for that new lady as well

  • [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52191’ dateline=‘1557372469’]
    I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.
    [/quote]

    Primo if you can afford to run it.

  • [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52191’ dateline=‘1557372469’]
    I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.
    [/quote]

    Masteron is the answer here, hands down. It is perfect for summer, as it will make you look shredded as long as your body fat is low enough, but it is also mild enough to not throw off your cycle.

    Only issue I see is with dosing. Since you are already 5 weeks into a 10 week cycle, if you used Mast E, you wouldn’t be saturated until the end of your cycle. So you would have to use Mast P, which means pinning daily (or EOD).

    If you don’t want to use a short ester, you are going to have to stick to orals. Oils just have half lives which are too long to add for the last 5 weeks of a cycle, unless you use short esters.

  • [quote=“DNPstoney” pid=‘52210’ dateline=‘1557380627’]
    [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52191’ dateline=‘1557372469’]
    I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.
    [/quote]

    Masteron is the answer here, hands down. It is perfect for summer, as it will make you look shredded as long as your body fat is low enough, but it is also mild enough to not throw off your cycle.

    Only issue I see is with dosing. Since you are already 5 weeks into a 10 week cycle, if you used Mast E, you wouldn’t be saturated until the end of your cycle. So you would have to use Mast P, which means pinning daily (or EOD).

    If you don’t want to use a short ester, you are going to have to stick to orals. Oils just have half lives which are too long to add for the last 5 weeks of a cycle, unless you use short esters.
    [/quote]

    It’s gonna be ten weeks of this mystery compound (looks like it’s gonna be Masteron)

    Thanks guys

  • DHB >>> primo for strength

  • definitely DHB

  • [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52223’ dateline=‘1557402684’]
    [quote=“DNPstoney” pid=‘52210’ dateline=‘1557380627’]
    [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52191’ dateline=‘1557372469’]
    I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.
    [/quote]

    Masteron is the answer here, hands down. It is perfect for summer, as it will make you look shredded as long as your body fat is low enough, but it is also mild enough to not throw off your cycle.

    Only issue I see is with dosing. Since you are already 5 weeks into a 10 week cycle, if you used Mast E, you wouldn’t be saturated until the end of your cycle. So you would have to use Mast P, which means pinning daily (or EOD).

    If you don’t want to use a short ester, you are going to have to stick to orals. Oils just have half lives which are too long to add for the last 5 weeks of a cycle, unless you use short esters.
    [/quote]

    It’s gonna be ten weeks of this mystery compound (looks like it’s gonna be Masteron)

    Thanks guys
    [/quote]

    Lots of people are saying DHB and Primo, so I will throw out my thoughts on those.

    DNH and Primo are more excotic compound, have more sides than mast, and is more expensive. I would choose Mast over these two in 8/10 situations. The only two situations I could think of are:

    -If you have already run Mast and want to run something you haven’t run before.

    -If you are (significantly) above 12% BF, you probably won’t see much from the Mast. In this case, you would probably see more results on DHB and Primo, and it would help you hit your (presumed) goal of dropping some fat (at least Primo will, idk much about DHB besides anecdotes and comparisons to Tren).

  • [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52191’ dateline=‘1557372469’]
    I’m 5 weeks into a 10 week Test C/Tren E/anavar (150 a week, test, 200 week tren, 50mg a day of the var which I started about 2 weeks ago and will run out of before I’m done with the Tren). Definitely see what all the fuss is about with Trenbolone, this is my first experience with anything other than test and it’s working like I was told it would.)

    Long story short, I’ve decided to stay on another 10 weeks after the tren is done, to ride out the summer (new girl in my life) and am looking for something to pair with about 250 mg a week of test. Not looking to blow up, just get stronger/harder and keep a good libido/state of mind

    Was thinking Masteron or DHB, but figured I’d ask the knowledge pool here. I’d like to avoid 19-Nors for the time being, thoughI’ll jump back on the tren train next summer again, I’m sure.

    Not too too worried about recovery after a longish cycle given that I’ve been running lowish doses.

    I suppose just doing the 250 of test with nothing to accompany it is an option too.
    [/quote]
    I think Mast, DHB or Primo would be your best bets. All are dry and provide varying levels of strength. Strength improvement from mast seems to be the most user dependent though. I’ve read some guys get no strength improvement while others say it provided a nice strength boost. Not tren-like but still noticeable. DHB seems to provide the greatest strength boost of the 3 while primo seems to provide the most in terms of strength endurance.

    A couple other notes, DHB seems to induce nasty pip in a numbers of users. Although some guys say it isn’t that bad. And different brews will be more or less likely to induce pip. This is essentially its only significant downside.

    All 3 are light on sides and primo seems almost side effect free. Mast does have a reputation of being very hard on the hairline if you’re pre-disposed to it. Of course, mast also has the reputation of being one of the best promoters of well being and sex drive. Primo seems to convey a similar sense of well being in some but not all.

    As for doses, if you’re just looking to maintain, then 100 DHB, 200 mast or 200 primo a week should pair wonderfully with 250mg test.

    Enjoy the summer man.

  • Thanks everybody. Think I’m gonna up my Tren dose (with some Tren A) for the remaining 4-5 weeks, and then do Masteron. Sounds like it’s just what I’m looking for. I have a shitload of hair and I’m in my early 40’s, so I figure like hair loss would be well under way at this point if it were a thing for me.

  • [quote=“nlite2k” pid=‘52297’ dateline=‘1557441240’]
    Thanks everybody. Think I’m gonna up my Tren dose (with some Tren A) for the remaining 4-5 weeks, and then do Masteron. Sounds like it’s just what I’m looking for. I have a shitload of hair and I’m in my early 40’s, so I figure like hair loss would be well under way at this point if it were a thing for me.
    [/quote]

    I dare say that upping your tren dose is all you should do… Save the Masteron, it won’t even be too noticeable with a higher dose of tren.

  • You’d see a difference jumping up to 250mg Test/500mg Tren buddy I promise

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